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Beat the 16 Feb price rise for UK certificates and a new catalogue at PROV

Bill Barlow
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In this post we pass on some news from our partners -near and far. The UK Federation of Family History Societies reminds us that, if we are quick, we can beat the 16 February Price Rise for UK BDM certificates. And, nearer to home, PROV (Public Records Office Victoria) is launching a new version of their online catalogue. You could assist them by providing feedback.

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BEAT THE PRICE RISE FOR UK CERTIFICATES

It's not long before the cost of UK birth, marriage or death certificates and of the PDF versions will go up. On 16 February 2019 certificates will increase from £9.25 to £11.00. At the same time, the PDF version will rise from £6.00 to £7.00.

Don't delay!

Work out which PDFs or certificates you need.

Send in your order (https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate)  before the last-minute rush.

Federation of Family History Societies UK

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 A MESSAGE FROM PROV ABOUT THEIR PROPOSED NEW ONLINE CATALOGUE 

'Hello history lovers, You are receiving this request for feedback because we value your opinion on archival research.

This week we launched a Beta version of our new online catalogue for the collection held at Public Record Office Victoria. We recognise this collection is vital for people seeking information about their family history and accessing public records.

Some of the new features include:

* Searching by several filters at the same time

* Viewing digitised records prior to download

* A cleaner interface to view Agency and Series descriptions

* A simpler interface to browse lists of items and series.

We are seeking feedback over the next few months about the features of this catalogue, which is why we have decided to launch it in Beta first. You can easily access the new online catalogue by starting your keyword search on our website and then switching the toggle at the top of the page to switch to the new catalogue interface. To send us feedback click on the feedback button on the top right hand side of the page.

Please take a look at this video introduction to our new online catalogue and send us your feedback.

https://prov.vic.gov.au/about-us/our-blog/try-searching-our-new-catalogue-interface

Kate Follington, Co-ordinator, Communications and Online Engagement

e: kate.follington@prov.vic.gov.au - Phone 03 9348 5478 | 0412328632

Public Record Office Victoria, Victorian Archives Centre | 99 Shiel St North Melbourne VIC 3051

www.prov.vic.gov.au

 

PROV News | https://prov.vic.gov.au/about-us/our-blog

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'The Married Widows of Cornwall'

Bill Barlow
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'The Married Widows' is a term describing the wives 'left behind' by their husbands who departed England to seek work and/or new lives overseas.  The men usually intended to return home with an improved financial postion, or looked to establish themselves in new homes and communities and send for their wives and children later on.  This was not always the case, quite often the separations became permanent.

The concept of 'left behind' is also interesting.  This tends to imply a passive role for the women, but in many cases they were active participants in the decision, sometimes refusing to go, but more often agreeing to maintain the family at home until the whole family could eventually be reunited in better circumstances.

Dr Lesley Trotter, a historian and genealogist, has conducted extensive research on this phenomenon of family separation in 19th century Cornwall and sets out the findings in her fascinating book, The Married Widows of Cornwall: the story of the wives 'left behind' by emigration.  

What skills and resources could the wives and families turn to in the face of long term absences of the key family-breadwinners?  Were destitute wives forced into prostitution, or families bundled off to the workhouse?  Dr Trotter provides new perspectives and many first hand stories on how the wives and families survived at home while husbands worked overseas, some sending home money (and quite a few not), others dying overseas and more again drifting apart and never reuniting.  Dr Trotter uses a broad range of resources in her research and is still keen to hear from family historians with stories to tell of their own married widows.   Although the book is based on Cornish research, the findings resonate for those researching in other counties as well.

In talking to Dr Trotter, Stephen Hawke, the convenor of the GSV's South West England  Research and Discussion Circle (SWERD) found that, from her research Dr Trotter knew of his great-great-grandfather's wife and daughter left behind in Cornwall, but as he never went back she didn't know the Australian end of the story.  Stephen observes that:

'Her book has set me rethinking the family story and opened up some new aspects for research.'

The next meeting of the South West England Research & Discussion circle will discuss Dr Trotter's book and how her findings relate to our own family stories or perceptions of Married Widows, those left behind when our ancestors first ventured to these shores.  It is often difficult to find women's stories in family histories and Dr Trotter's research is a valuable resource which helps bring their lives and voices to the fore.  Dr Trotter is keen to have feedback from discussion of the book and hopes that those attending this session can bring their own stories. The SWERD meeting (free for for GSV members) is on Wednesday 13 February, 12:30 - 2:00pm at GSV.

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The New Poor Laws - post 1834: Talk this Thursday at GSV

Bill Barlow
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Huge new workhouses were built across England and Wales after 1834 to accommodate and control the poor in accordance with the Government's new poor law regime.  The regime was introduced in Ireland, and on a modified basis in Scotland, from the 1840s.  The workhouses and laws were deliberately harsh - and the impressions left by Charles Dickens and others attest to the living and working conditions of our ancestors who were inmates, workers or officers.

A talk at GSV this coming Thursday 31 January - 12 - 1 PM  - will introduce you to the New Poor Laws and the workhouses. See all details on our website NEW POOR LAW TALK. 

Stephen Hawke will describe the harsh laws, rules and living conditions that broke up families and institutionalised children; the scandals and lax government response; and what it was like to live, work and die in a workhouse. Find out how to use the records and resources at the GSV to discover if your ancestors were involved.

Children at Crumpsall workhouse 1897

 

The Book of the Bastiles (G Baxter, 1841) provides first hand testimony from inmates and others and records that families suffer the greatest destitution rather than submit to go into the workhouse. Tens of thousands were admitted each year. The Governor of Bath gaol reflected that former workhouse inmates far preferred prison residence, discipline and food to that in the workhouse.  In too many workhouses the gross overcrowding, maltreatment, starvation diets and corrupt practices by some workhouse managers compounded the misery for inmates.  In the 1840s a series of appalling workhouse scandals and deaths in Hampshire, Surrey and Yorkshire embedded a fear of the workhouses which prevailed until they were closed in the 20th century.

The New Poor Laws are important social history and for many of our ancestors the workhouses were a major factor in their departure for the Australian colonies.

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Free family history software sessions for GSV members

Bill Barlow
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A search of the internet for family history software will give you a multitude of programs to choose from. Do some research before you decide on the best program for you. Make sure that it suits your needs.

We will be adding a short introduction to family history software on the GSV website. One place to start your research is through VICGUM (Victorian Genealogists using Microcomputers) they can be found at VICGUM

VICGUM has arranged for free one-on-one help sessions for GSV members who are Family Tree Maker users. 

Each session will be 45 minutes and it is essential that a booking be made for each session.

Sessions will be held at the VICGUM office, Level 4 – 83 William Street, Melbourne and will take place on the 2nd Tuesday of each month in 2019, commencing on the 12th February, 2019. Numbers will be limited.

Session times will be :



Session 1     -     10:15 –  11:00 AM



Session 2     -     11:00 –  11.45 AM



Session 3     -     12:15 –  1:00 PM



Session 4     -     1:00 –  1:45 PM

Bookings are to be made by email: bookings@vicgum.asn.au  Please include your name, preferred time, GSV membership number and your contact phone number.

Note:   If you are not using a family history software program then you can book for a general introductory demonstration.

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Correction to 'E partimmo!' talk and Vic/Tas Discussion Circle notice

Bill Barlow
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CORRECTION to earlier post on 'E partimmo'

The coming talk on Saturday 15 November - 'E partimmo. We left' - at GSV International Settlers Group is, of course, open to all ISG members, even if not GSV members. Non-ISG, GSV members and others are also invited. See details about the ISG on the website.

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VIC TAS DISCUSSION CIRCLE

Friday 22 November - 10.30 am-12 noon

One of the very active, new GSV groups is the Victorian Tasmanian Discussion Circle.

At their final meeting for the year the topic will be:

 

 'Where to find all the records you need for your research'

 with a small presentation by group participant Michael Considine.

 

 

Afterwards they will be having an End of Year Lunch.

Where: RACV Club 501 Burke Street Melbourne

All members of the Vic Tas Discussion Circle are invited to an end of year lunch in the bistro of the RACV Club in Queen St Melbourne. (Walking distance from the GSV). 

Membership of this Circle is limited to GSV members. (So join up quick).

 

The Circle Convener advises:

RSVP essential! Please email the convener at victas@gsv.org.au or ruthie.wirtz@gmail.com if you’re able to attend the lunch. A booking for 20 people has been made and all non-members of the RACV Club will need to be signed in. So we will meet at the rear entrance off Little Collins Street). 
All diets catered for and at reasonable cost. Please bring cash on the day to make for ease of paying the bill. 

 



I hope to see many of you there to celebrate the end of year.

 

Ruthie Wirtz

Convener

 

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180 years on descendants of immigrants on the ship 'David Clark' are gathering next Sunday

Bill Barlow
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Many families arrange get-togethers of their descendants, but next Sunday there is a gathering with a difference. 

 

180 years later descendants of immigrants from the ship David Clark are gathering next Sunday October 27 to celebrate this anniversary.

 

Descendants of those passengers are invited to attend a reunion on Sunday, 27 October 2019 at Gulf Station, Yarra Glen, Victoria.

 

The David Clark was the first ship to bring assisted immigrants direct to Port Phillip in October 1839. All were Scots and many settled in the Upper Yarra valley including William Bell, who once owned Gulf Station, an historic National Trust farm.

 

As part of the welcome, a poem will be read that was written by Christine Mawdesley (a McEwin descendant) for the 1939 celebrations of the 100th anniversary, and a bagpiper will play “Lochaber No More” the lament that was played by John Arthur as the ship sailed from Greenock 13 June 1839, then a tree will be planted.

 

You can book by email now to davidclark1839@gmail.com or HERE https://www.trybooking.com/book/event?eid=542336

 

We wish all descendants a great day.

 

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Want to know more about the history?

 

This article was prepared from information provided by Irene Kearsey. Irene is a GSV Member, and a volunteer at PROV and Gulf Station. For more information you can read her article: 

'La Trobe's first Immigrants: Passengers from the David Clark 1839' by Irene Kearsey in Journal of the C J La Trobe Society. vol 17 no. 2 July 2018, pp 16-21 (accessed 20/10/2019 at https://www.latrobesociety.org.au/LaTrobeana/LaTrobeanaV17n2Kearsey.pdf

 

Were your ancestors aboard the David Clark?

You can search the list of passengers on the Public Record Office Victoria(PROV) VPRS 14 Assisted Passenger Lists 1839-1871 at website https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration/assisted-passenger-lists. You may need to do more research to establish your descendancy, and the GSV can help you with that, but maybe not before next Sunday.

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Were Australians assisting the Serbians in WW1 before Gallipoli?

Bill Barlow
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When you start researching the lives of ancestors during the Great War you may become embroiled in the complex history of the 'Eastern Question' and the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, which lead to the First World War. 

 

How did some Australian and New Zealanders come to be serving in support of the Serbian Army before the ANZACS landed at Gallipoli? 

 

Richard Cooke of Camberwell and Bojan Pajic of Glen Iris, discovered that they both had relatives who may have met in Serbia during World War One; Richard's grandmother, Ethel Gillingham, was an Australian nurse volunteer supporting the Serbian Army in 1915 and Bojan's grandfather and great uncle, who was wounded in 1915, were officers in the Serbian Army.

 

Australian doctors, nurses, orderlies, drivers and assistants, mainly women, volunteered to serve inBritish units that were sent to Serbia in 1914-15 and to the Salonika (or “Eastern”) Front in 1916-18, to assist the Serbian Army. Australian Army nurses were sent to serve in Salonika in the later part ofthe War. The exact number and identity of all Australian volunteers serving with various organisations in

support of the Serbian Army and people is unknown.

 

Bojan Pajic has traced over 100 descendants and relatives of Australians and New Zealanders who served in Serbia or alongside the Serbian Army on the Salonika Front and nearby seas in World War One. You can hear about the little-known story of ANZAC soldiers, airmen, medical volunteers and humanitarian workers who participated in the Serbian theatre of war in WW1 when Bojan Pajic will present:

 

"Our Forgotten Volunteers: 

Australians and New Zealanders with Serbs in World War One"

 

Thursday 24 October - 12 pm - 1.00 pm at GSV.

 

Bookings are essential. Go to our website HERE.

 

Our speaker

 

medium_pajic-book-233x300.jpgBojan Pajic majored in history at the University of Adelaide and served as an infantry officer in the Citizen's Military Forces/Army Reserve. He has served overseas as an Australian Trade Commissioner. 

As well as author of the book Our Forgotten Volunteers: Australians and New Zealanders with Serbs in World War One (Australian Scholarly Publishing, 2018), he is also the author of Serbian Decorations through History and Serbian Medals Awarded to Australians, (2016).

 

 

 

References

 

'The World War One Australian Serbian Project', B. Pajic in Ancestor 33:7 Sept 2017, p.15. (GSV Members can view this on our website).

 

'Exhibition: Serbia in the Great War' at soc.org.au, website of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Australia and New Zealand (accessed 17 Oct 2019).

 

'Australian women volunteers with the Serbian army in World War One', Srpski Glas[newspaper] 24 Aug 2015 (website accessed 17 Oct 2019).

 

Winner of the 2019 GSV Writing Prize announced

Bill Barlow
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The GSV congratulates the winner and runner-up of its annual Writing Prize 2019 for a family-history article.

The successful entrants were announced at the AGM on Saturday 5 October.

The winning entry was 'Masters of the Road' by Louise Wilson. 

The runner-up was 'Finding Johanna' by Victoria Spicer. 

 

Louise Wilson's interesting story is about the role of the author’s ancestors in the initiation of the Royal Mail Service coaches in Great Britain in the 1790s.

'Finding Johanna' by Victoria Spicer revolves around Geelong, and was built on the author’s change of mind about an Irish bounty emigrant step-great-great-grandmother whom shehad once scorned for being intermittently jailed for vagrancy and drunkenness. 

There were a record number of entries including some from GSV regional Member Societies who were invited this year.

Entries were considered by a five-member judging panel. This year an external guest judge, Dr Val Noone OAM, joined Joy Roy FGSV representing the GSV President; and three Ancestor team members, Leonie Loveday, Margaret Vines and Martin Playne. GSV thanks Dr Noone and the other judges for their commitment to this successful competition to foster and demonstrate good family-history writing.

 

The winner receives a 12-month subscription from Ancestry.com to their Worldwide Membership and an Ancestry.com DNA test kit. Ancestry also generously gave a prize for the runner-up.

 

The winning entry will be published in the December issue of GSV's Ancestor journal. 

 

Congratulations to both winners and all entrants.

 

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Were convicts sent to Victoria? Find out this THURSDAY.

Bill Barlow
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This question of whether convicts were sent to the Port Phillip District (later known as Victoria) often invokes a statement that no convicts were transported to the district. Although Port Phillip was not one of the mainstream colonies for traditional convict transportation, there were in fact six distinct groups of convicts connected to the Port Phillip District.

 

On THURSDAY THIS WEEK 19 September 12 noon to 1.00 pm our guest speaker Susie Zada will definitively answer this question. 

 

CONVICTS - PORT PHILLIP DISTRICT

 

Not too late to book! BOOK HERE

 

This presentation by Susie will highlight detailed sources and records for convicts in each of these six groups: the Sullivan's Bay Settlement 10 October 1803 - 15 May 1804; Western Port Settlement 24 November 1826 - February 1828; the Port Phillip Settlement 1835 - 1849; the Exiles 1844 - 1849; Convicted convicts 1841 - 1849; and the Free Settlers who were former convicts from 1835.

 

Records can be found in at least twenty-two different resources including the Archives Office of New South Wales (AONSW), The National Archives in the UK (TNA), the Public Records Office Victoria (PROV), and various web sites and publications.

 

$5 GSV members. $20 non-members. FHC, RHSV and CAV members should contact the GSV for a 25% discount.

Bookings are required and can be made online, by email, in person or by telephone (Mon-Fri 9.00am-4.00pm). Joint members please book in separately if both attending. There will be a wait list available.

19 September 2019, 12:00   to   13:00 pm

Level 6, 85 Queen Street

Melbourne  VIC 3000

Australia

 

BE QUICK!

What is over the white cliffs of Dover?

Bill Barlow
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Behind what may be the most famous piece of coast in the English world, lies Kent - an ancient English county jutting out in to the sea and around which many of our forebears sailed on their journey to Australia. They may even have commenced their journey being loaded from the Chatham Hulks. Having cleared the Thames estuary hundreds of sailing ships often sheltered in The Downs awaiting favourable winds to take them through the Strait of Dover and westwards into the English Channel. The Kentish coast may have been their last glimpse of England.

 

On Thursday 17 October 2019- 10:00 am to 12:30 pm - the GSV is privileged to host a seminar that you should not miss if you have any Kentish links.

 

'Genealogy, History and Geography' plus 'Tracing your Kent Ancestors' 

 

Presented by David Wright,a Fellow of the Society of Genealogists and a member of the Kent Family History Society for over forty years.

 

History without geography is meaningless. This talk covers our ancestors' lives in context: how and why they moved and how such behaviour can be traced. It looks at county and other boundaries and the restriction of freedom they allowed.

Genealogically speaking, Kent is an important maritime county, which has played a prime defensive role in English history. It is large and diverse and replete with great houses, castles and other family homes, many with their own archives. It is also a fascinating area of research for historians. This talk is packed with vital information for anyone researching their own family history.

 

Bookings are required and can be made online, by email, in person or by telephone (Mon-Fri 9.00am-4.00pm). Go to our website for details. https://staging.gsv.org.au/ Maximum 35 attendees, and there will be a wait list available.

 

Our presenter

 

David Wright is a professional genealogist, historian and writer. He has taught at University College, London, and he is a Fellow of the Society of Genealogists.

 

David's career has covered over three decades of genealogical and historical research, by way of the study of classics and University lecturing, and he has written three books on Kentish records and the guide 'Tracing your Kent Ancestors'. He lectures widely on genealogy and allied subjects and has taught classical and mediaeval Latin and palaeography at the City Literary Instituteand, at both University College, Londonand the School of History at the University of Kent at Canterbury. He has been a member of the Kent Family History Society almost from its inception in the 1970s. In 2009, after nearly forty years’ membership, he was awarded a prestigious fellowship of the Society of Genealogists, and in November 2017 was honoured by being invited to sign the Fellows' Register of the Society of Antiquaries, London.

 

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